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You did not get worse at this. The mountain got harder.

Noah Deich on his long history in carbon removal, public goods, and why building projects matters more than merely surviving the valley.

Episode 383 of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, hosted by Ross Kenyon. You can listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you enjoy your podcasts.

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Life gotten harder recently? You must have just leveled up. We all thought we were doing the very hard work necessary to scale carbon removal, but was this ultimately a false peak? When you climb to what you think is the top of the mountain only to find a lot more mountain lurking behind it?

Today's show is with Noah Deich, a carbon removal mover and shaker with his thumbprint on many of the biggest organizations and policies in the world. He recently completed a year in the prestigious Stripe Climate Fellows program, which selected a cohort of some of the sharpest people in CDR to develop new approaches to grow demand for carbon removal. Noah's effort was an attempt to create an Advance Market Commitment structure like Frontier but for governments rather than corporations. You'll hear how that went in this episode...

Noah and host Ross Kenyon also laugh about the old days of commercial carbon removal, their mistaken beliefs (and maybe mostly Ross's), and try to chart a course forward for our crucial but incredibly trying work.

This episode's sponsors

Philip Lee LLP: legal resources for carbon removal buyers and suppliers

Listen to the RCC episode with Ryan Covington from Philip Lee LLP

Resources

Here's an article about some of the aftermath of the International Maritime Organization decarbonization plan failure

Stripe Climate Fellows

Frontier

Advance market commitment

Carbon180

"17: Noah Deich and Giana Amador of the Center for Carbon Removal"

Free trade

Protectionism

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Carbon Removal Newsroom, the news show that ran alongside this one, is over. Its episodes are still up, on the feed Climate Workers Anonymous now uses.

Carbon Removal Memes is still goofing around.

The books that come up on this show are collected on my Bookshop shelf.

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